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Stuff I use: How to record and transcribe interviews quickly with cheap or free software

11 August 2009

in Workhacks and Livehacks

I like finding computer-based ways to do my job cheaper and faster. Most of these methods are to cover up for my natural procrastination: using hotkeys, text inserters, autoresponders, and capture tools helps make up for the time I spent Googling “child riding boa constrictor.” I really, really love finding this stuff, but I never get to talk about it. Today I’d like to talk about recording and transcribing interviews.

I do 1-4 interviews a week. That’s a lot of audio to deal with, and, for just a little feature, that’s a lot of hearing some guy or girl you used to think was pretty interesting talking about how “melodic” their new record is (a lot of interviewers are terrible, but people forget that lots of bands don’t know how to talk to people either).

I use several things to make doing and transcribing interviews easier: Skype, Audacity, Express Scribe, and a program from Ecamm called Call Recorder. Skype and Audacity are free, and Call Recorder costs $14.95.

Here’s why this trio is an interviewer’s dream:

Skype / Skype Out: I purchased a Skype Out number for $2.95 a month. This allows people to call me from a land or cell line, and lets me call regular land/cell lines. I also get free calls in the US and Canada. I don’t usually have to call overseas, and Skype Out lets you pay as you go for international calls, at reasonable rates. Lately I’ve been using Google Voice for this, because their rates can be even cheaper. Sure it doesn’t have the portability of a cell phone, and you might have to look like this, but the call quality is usually great and it allows you to use the next tool.

Ecamm Call Recorder (for Macs).

This program’s amazing for two reasons:

1) You can set it to automatically record any call if it lasts more than 30 seconds (or any time length you want), so you don’t end up with a bunch of automatic recordings of your boyfriend asking if he should buy cat food or rings where no one answered, nor do you ever forget to turn it on when Cat Power calls you.

2) If you loathe the sound of your own voice and your pathetic questions next to the sound of Chan Marshall purring lazy answers at you, then Call Recorder will allow you to split the sides of the conversation. Cat Power purr on one file, your voice on the other. Now you can transcribe without cringing or crying. This is especially great if you’re grabbing quotes for a feature where you don’t need your questions at all.

3) You can add markers during the call, so, if you’re sprightly and sly, you can add markers like “Question about Scientology affiliation” and “Where he called me a genius,” and they’ll show up as chapter markers in Quicktime. If you convert the file, you can still export your markers (with the timecode) to a text file for easy reference.

4) I said two reasons. There are actually four. You have a visual meter, so you can make sure it’s recording and that it’s recording at a volume loud enough to hear later on.

Audacity (free, open-source sound editor):

Or even better, convert that .mov audio file to mp3 (you can do this with Call Recorder’s built-in scripts), then fire up Audacity and cut out the parts where you were asking questions (it’ll appear as silence on the interviewee’s file). Then you can use Change Tempo to slow it down. I find that -42% keeps the interviewee’s voice clear, but is slow enough to transcribe without having to pause. Hand that edited crap over to your transcriptionist (or intern, or boyfriend). If you’re paying someone and you’re a cheap-o, you could probably get away with editing out your voice, and speeding it up slightly, thus saving on those transcription-per-minute fees. Then you can spend your transcriptionist savings on artificial tears or a conscience.


Express Scribe (free)

If you’re transcribing files yourself and you have a Mac, I recommend using Express Scribe along with your own foot pedal. I just got mine, and it’s excellent, especially when I use it with Express Scribe. The program lets you set universal hot keys, slow down or speed up audio tempo on the fly, and add in time stamps automatically. I usually listen to audio at around 150% speed until I get to quotes I like, then I slow it down and just transcribe what I need.

What about typing during the call?
Some people can do this. I can’t. I usually stare at my own questions, or Google artists or locations they’ve mentioned while they’re talking, so I can come up with smart follow ups. I’ve just never been able to do more than write down the time or scratch a note whenever I’m interviewing someone. I lose my train of thought, or lose the flow of the conversation, if I try to transcribe while talking on the phone.

Oh yeah, also.
Get a headset. No way you can type or Google things or, I don’t know, trim your nails? Eat dinner? During interviews without one. Don’t you want to look this cool:

What about recording on your cell phone?
I have an iPhone, I believe there’s a program that can record your phone calls now. I also used to have one of those attachments from RadioShack that lets you connect your cell phone to a recorder. Me, I use drop.io. For the cost of a single upgrade on a “drop,” I get a conference number where I can place conference calls. The same number will also automatically record the audio and upload it as an MP3 file to your account. The $10 also gets me storage space and outgoing faxes. Not a bad deal. When I need to record an interview on my cell phone I just call my drop.io conference number, then call my subject for an awesome three-way.

How about in-person interviews?
I’ve got an old iRiver IFP for this. It’s about five years old, but it still records to MP3, sync with my Mac, and has super clear audio. The best part? It’s really small. I haven’t recorded to tape since I had my old mini tape recorder in college, but I remembered how interview subjects’ eyes would also glance over at my recorder. I think seeing the thing makes people subconsciously self-conscious. My iRiver player is small enough to keep next to my hand, under the table, hidden behind a salt shaker at a diner, etc., so that the subject knows it’s there, but it’s small enough to forget. Loose lips make for the best interviews.

One last thing.
Don’t forget to check your state’s laws on taping conversations. My state, New York, allows for one-party consent. When I do phone interviews I don’t tell them I’m recording, I assume they know what they say to me is on the record. I usually make clear that I’m recording interviews when I do them in-person, just because they don’t always know everything’s on the record, and I’d rather avoid problems later.

EDIT:

Here’s some tips from some friends:

From Yancey Strickler:

the trick i always use is just having the internet transcribe my interviews for me. costs about $18 an interview. well worth it: http://waxy.org/2008/09/audio_transcription_with_mechanical_turk/

From my awesome ex-editor Reid Davis:

Also, when I’m away from my computer, I used MacAlly’s iVoice pro hardware plug-in for my iPod along with Griffin’s iTalk Pro software. You can record through the built-in mic, or plug in another device, like a landline phone (Radio Shack telephone recorder, about $12.)

From writer / Tucson friend Curtis McCrary:

also, fyi, google voice will record incoming phone calls for you (but not transcribe them). but it’s an easy shortcut to getting an interview recorded and in easy-to-listen-to form on the computer.

{ 26 comments… read them below or add one }

Jessica Suarez August 11, 2009 at 3:57 pm

Then I know it's the best :)

Jessica Suarez August 11, 2009 at 3:59 pm

Oh man this posted twice b/c I put it on su.pr and Facebook automatically imports my RSS feed. I am over-aggregated.

Caryn August 11, 2009 at 3:55 pm

I also use the Skype-Ecamm-Express Scribe connection!

Nina August 11, 2009 at 5:03 pm

This is amazing! I use to write for a couple of magazines and I can relate to all of the above, and doing stuff old-school … radio shack and me are friends! My fav was interviewing Melora from Rasputina for Outburn … I am a cellist, and she is soft-spoken and I was totally sort of shy for some reason and feeling like a total fan girl … listening to the tape was hideous, but it ended up being a good interview on paper!

Alex August 11, 2009 at 5:33 pm

submit this to lifehacker

Shaya August 11, 2009 at 8:40 pm

oh. my. god. the HOURS i've spent transcribing… i could have had some of them back?? thank you for this, j. i'm upending my whole post-reporting process, stat.

serah-marie August 13, 2009 at 9:18 am

thank you thank you thank you! You just saved me days of work.

Matt Diehl August 22, 2009 at 2:37 am

Jesus, this is helpful. Yes, I just called you Jesus… Godlike. I thought I was up on this shit and… I’m not, obviously!

Milo November 16, 2009 at 3:54 am

Thanks for the tips! This will help for my dissertation!

Andreas Hasenauer December 9, 2009 at 10:49 am

Hi Jessica,

may be you are interested in checking out http://www.audiotranscription.us
We are a company based in Germany but we´re also in the process of expanding our services to the US. We have an outstanding reputation when it comes to audiotranscription solutions. We have just translated parts of our website into english language and our audiotranscription software f4 download is for free. Check it out…

Greetings

Andreas

Whitney January 26, 2010 at 12:34 pm

Thank you so much! I just got my drop and now I feel like I can breathe deeply not having to stress about transcribing (which I don’t really know how to do) while interviewing. Thank you!!

Alex Hudson March 28, 2010 at 6:20 pm

Oh man, I just downloaded ExpressScribe. Can’t wait to try this out. Thank you!

By the way, all I do is use Skype and turn on GarageBand. It makes a really unbalanced mix (I’m really loud and it makes me cringe), but it doesn’t the trick with a minimum of fuss.

Lindsey April 27, 2010 at 5:37 pm

Thanks so much for all the great info. I just did a transcription with ExpressScribe and it is an awesome program!! You rock! 1 down and 9 to go…

Jessica April 27, 2010 at 5:40 pm

You are so welcome. Glad I could make this horrible, awful task easier.

Teresa May 15, 2010 at 9:29 pm

I went to this site and was a bit disturbed during the downloading to read the fine print. This is Australian company. Read this copied intro from the downloading agreement for free Express Scribe:
1. The copyrights in this software and any visual or audio work distributed with the software belong to NCH Software. NCH Software reserves all rights. NCH Software licenses the distribution and installation of this software only in accordance with these terms.
2. By installing, using or distributing this software you, on your own behalf and on behalf of your employer or principal, agree to be bound by these terms. If you do not agree to any of these terms, you may not use, copy, transmit, distribute, or install this software.

Sometimes free comes with a price tag. This one is a bit steep for me.

Greg June 7, 2010 at 2:23 am

Hi Teresa, if you are in the US: – Let’s look at your concerns:
“This is Australian company. Read this copied intro from the downloading agreement for free Express Scribe:”

Australia has a formal FTA (Free Trade Agreement) with the US, which means that US copyrights, patents and IP laws are enforceable (and vice-versa).

“The copyrights in this software and any visual or audio work distributed with the software belong to NCH Software. NCH Software reserves all rights. NCH Software licenses the distribution and installation of this software only in accordance with these terms.”

Well, yeah, of course! I think your difficulty is probably with the phrase ” any visual or audio work distributed with the software belong to NCH Software ”

What you are mis-understanding is that “distributed with” means “part of, or supplied with”, like help files, video demos etc. What you are (incorrectly, but understandably) concerned about is the difference between help files available to you (for free) WITH the software, as opposed to your own IP created BY USING the software. What you create is not “distriuted with” the software unless (being freeware) you decide to send them a suggested help-file addition, in which case, yeah, your suggestion goes free to the entire Web community.

BUT, whatever you create USING the free software remains yours alone, unless you publish it, sell it or blogg it. NCH has no more right to your text than say- your keyboard manufacturer does.

They are talking about content they created, not you. Consult another lawyer if unsure!

Kind regards,
Greg

Sandeep Ghael August 12, 2010 at 4:33 pm

Hi Jessica,

great article. Have you though about using something like Active Interview (http://activeinterview.com) to do video interviews for you instead of Skype? With Active Interview, the videos would be recorded and you can collaborate on hiring with the rest of your hiring team, since multiple people can see the same recorded videos. And we have automatic transcriptions coming very soon (next 1-2 months).

thanks again for the article!
- Sandeep

Jennifer August 26, 2010 at 4:15 pm

Very good information, and I’m always happy to Express Scribe free transcription software recommended. If you are looking for more information on call recording laws we tried to pull some of that information together in our blog to help people make sure that they are in the clear when recording phone calls, so you can learn more about call recording laws there.

Jennifer
NCH Software
NCH Software Blog

John November 18, 2010 at 5:41 pm

Just a thought since you mentioned Google Voice. I don’t see any reason why you couldn’t call your own number and play your audio files into your phone thus onto your voicemail. If you do that, Google Voice will try to transcribe it for free. It may not transcribe great, but it’s free and it should be an easy starting point for the transcription.

Jessica December 8, 2010 at 1:43 pm

I could do this, but in general the google transcriptions are only good for getting the gist. The time it would take to correct it wouldn’t be worth it.

Mollie laRue January 19, 2011 at 5:53 pm

Thank you for this excellent post. Definitely the most comprehensive I’ve found on “modern” interview recording!

Vikas February 16, 2011 at 1:04 am

This is so helpful. Thank you so much. Question: Does Ecamm Call Recorder work when you place calls from Google Voice? If not, is there a different recording app you use with Google Voice?

Jessica June 8, 2011 at 4:34 pm

Ecamm works with Google Voice is you use Skype with it. Basically I have Google Voice route calls to my Skype Out number. Note that Google Voice on its own can record incoming calls, but not outgoing calls.

Lagunatic June 28, 2011 at 3:59 pm

Ack, I wish I’d seen this before.
I recently did some interviews and used Google Voice to record them. I’ve got HOURS of recordings to go through and I was trying to figure out a way to get the GV recordings transcribed. Do you happen to know if there’s anyway way to save the GV files and open them in a transcription program?
Thanks!

SIMON MATHEBULA September 15, 2011 at 5:47 am

Dear Jessica

I am a teacher by proffesion. In 2010 i was dismissed from work due to an alleged misconduct. I am supposed to appear for an arbitration very soon. I took the recordings of a disciplinary hearing to be transcribed and i was turned down by the transcribing company. I downloaded Express scribe and I am able to load pre-recorded files and playback, but can’t make my word processor to type the audio.

I am from South Africa and this services are too scares in our country and I have just developed a passion in this field.

I am hoping to get more coaching and thanking you in Advance.

amy errmann November 3, 2011 at 6:46 pm

Thank you so much for posting this, you just saved me so much time and energy in transcribing data for my thesis! I really appreciate it!!

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